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Shame and Discipline
Thursday, January 17, 2008

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I had to blog this. It really touched me so deeply. I wish I had been taught to lovingly discipline my children. I'm sure my Mom does too. This is an eye-opener. I am going to make a check list and make sure I am not saying these things to my precious children!

Excerpt from Mama, We've Got Ourselves A Selfish Little Girl Here

"But the worst thing about shame if you’re a Christian is that you tend to think that God has the same feelings about you that you have about yourself. This creates a huge problem. How in the world are you supposed to have a deep, intimate relationship with a God you think has written you off as worthless and unloveable?

As John Bradshaw says, "When I feel guilt, I feel that I have made a mistake, and when I feel shame, I feel that I am a mistake." How can you believe God loves you if you feel like you're a mistake?

Shame takes six common forms and does not have to be blatant like the Red Lobster incident. In fact, it can be more damaging when it's subtle because then it's not obvious what is happening, so our defenses are down.

The six common forms of shame are:
1. The put-down: "You naughty boy!", "You're acting like a spoiled child!", "You selfish brat!", "You cry-baby!" "You're mean!" "Rug rat"
2. Moralizing: "Good little boys don't act that way" "You've been a bad little girl" “God isn’t pleased when you act that way” “Angels are crying right now because of what you’ve done”
3. Age-based expectations: "Grow up!" "Stop acting like a baby!" "Big boys don't cry ” "You're 10 years old--you should be able to do this by now""
4. Gender-based expectations: "Toughen-up and take it like a man!" "Don't be a sissy!" “Stop being so emotional!” “Don’t be such a silly girl”
5. Competency-based expectations: "You're hopeless!" “You’ll never be good at anything” "You should be able to do this math by yourself " "You should know better than that" "Any idiot could have figured that out"
6. Comparisons: "Why can't you be more like so-and-so?" "None of the other children are acting like you are" "You're not as _____as your sister (brother) "

Shame not only makes us feel like we intrinsically have no value, but it also gives us a distorted perception of what love really is. Why? Because the people who shame us the most tend to be the people who tell us they love us. So we get mixed messages about love. On the one hand we are told we are loved, but on the other we are made to feel like we are not worthy of love."

You can also look at their ARCHIVES.

God works in ways we cannot see, and if we will listen, He will show us what to do if our hearts are truly open to receiving it. I put on my Winter Reading Challenge: My Books 2008 that I am reading Preparing Sons by Steven Maxwell. I am also going to be sure to read Hints on Child Training by H. Clay Trumbull. I have read parts of it, but, in where the Lord is leading me in my study to train our sons... especially our oldest, Eric at 10, I am also going to teach our daughters about the differences when disciplining boys and girls as they become young men and young ladies.
The one thing that keeps going through my mind from reading Hints on Child Training is that sternness is not a good thing. The list above reminded me of that. It will be interesting to read if he relates sternness to shame.
In addition to that, I am reminded that Discipline is a form of the word Discipleship. Are you discipling your child when you discipline him or her? That is a huge question. We carry great responsibility to these precious children.

blessings!



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Thursday, January 17, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by homesteadinthemaking

Wow, that is so convicting. Thank you for sharing.
Blessings,
Trixi

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Monday, February 4, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by gabbie427

Thanks for sharing!

God's Blessings,
Amy Jo

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Monday, February 11, 2008 - Shame

Posted by Elena

Hello, my name is Elena and I write from Italy. I'm not a believer, so I hope I will not offend anyone with this comment, but I find your blog most interesting. In particular I was impressed by the post about shame, because I find it's a major issue in raising children in my society, too, especially for girls and women. I hope all of us, Christians or not, will raise better our children, so that we can build a society based on love, respect and understanding. For this reason I highly respect your views and faith wish love to you all.

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Saturday, February 16, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by OklahomaSweetPea06

Alrighty blogger friend thanks for the kick in the pants, this post has become a real eye opener for myself too....

BTW the other posts are just superb!! your girls did a great job here on the modesty posts.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - Untitled Comment

Posted by Anonymous

All I can say is WOW. I have a lot to work on. :P

Sisterlisa

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Matthew 6:7-13 The Lord's Prayer

7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do:
for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth
what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
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Exodus 20:1-17 The Ten Commandments

1 And God spake all these words, saying,
2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.




Deuteronomy 6:1-13

1 Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:
2 That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.
3 Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.
10 And it shall be, when the LORD thy God shall have brought thee into the land which he sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give thee great and goodly cities, which thou buildedst not,
11 And houses full of all good things, which thou filledst not, and wells digged, which thou diggedst not, vineyards and olive trees, which thou plantedst not; when thou shalt have eaten and be full;
12 Then beware lest thou forget the LORD, which brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
13 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.






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