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A bit of a snafu and new plans
It’s a hot and beautiful sun-shiny day here in my little corner of Lets look at what I've learnedRecapping what I’ve learned:I learned that you should never ever enter into an agreement with a debt counseling, debt solutions, debt settlement or debt consolidation agency (or any other name they might have). I learned that I should have, when I realized that I could no longer make even my minimum monthly payments--- I should have contacted the credit card companies immediately and worked our arrangements with them myself. [I didn’t know this was an option until I’d already signed on with the debt counseling agency.] The credit card companies actually do want to work with you because some money is better than no money. I learned to keep a file of every piece of paper that has to do with my finances, especially debts, and to keep copious notes of any and all correspondence (fax, voice mail, email, snail mail, phone calls) including the date and time of each. I’ve learned to trust God more than ever before. I’ve learned to lean on Him and depend on Him in ways I have never done before. I’ve learned that I am not good at maintaining our budget unless I have someone holding me accountable (Mr. Steady). I’ve learned that it is easier for me to stay on budget and keep track of all spending when we use the cash envelope system. I’ve learned that I don’t need all those things I thought I did. I’ve learned that instant gratification can really be a bad thing. I’ve learned that planning and waiting and accumulating for purchases (vs. instant gratification) really makes you take stock of whether you actually need it or even want it. I’ve learned- really learned better the value of “Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without”. I’ve learned that I actually find much joy and satisfaction in living within that phrase I just wrote. I’ve learned to pray about all matters- from the need for car repairs to come in on budget to the purchase of a pair of needed khaki pants. [I remember praying about white T-shirts- I picked up two shirts for the girls at the store but hemmed and hawed about the purchase all the way thru the store because I knew we didn’t even have the extra $8 for those two shirts- I prayed about it and put the shirts back. That evening my momma brought me a bag of clothes she had purchased at Goodwill- with 2 brand spanking new white T-shirts inside. God knows our needs- we need to ask!!] I’ve learned that there is no real need that God does not supply. I’ve learned that coffee ice cream is not such a need. I’ve learned the joy of being financially accountable for our finances to my husband- no more shame, no more allowing him to be oblivious. I’ve learned the joy of cheap date nights. I’ve learned the joy of coming home from a vacation that was not only totally paid for but we came back with money in our pockets! [As opposed to the old me that would put about half the vacation on the dreaded credit card.] I’ve learned that I do not miss shopping. I have not been to a mall in 3 years. I’ve learned to pray about all purchases- yes, even groceries. I’ve learned that it’s okay to be honest and tell others that you can’t afford something. I’ve learned that it’s even okay to opt out of the huge family holiday gift exchange. I’ve learned that I don’t feel guilty for opting out of that gift exchange- but relieved and light-hearted. I’ve learned that by stepping up and having the courage to say NO to even the good things that others will be glad you did and join you. (Once I was honest with my family about not having the means for the gift exchange others totally agreed and said they’d been trying to find a way to opt out for years! Go figure!) I’ve learned to find deeper appreciation in the small things- such as making my own iced coffee, going to a free museum, a quick car ride to watch fireworks from the driveway of a nearby field (with popcorn we hurriedly popped beforehand), bike rides, picnics and family camp fires. I’ve learned that God is nudging me to a new level of hospitality available to me due to what He’s been teaching me these past 2.5 years. I’ve learned a better understanding of a want and of a need. I’ve learned to dig deeper to pursue lining up my heart’s desires with the Lord’s. I’ve learned that in lining up those desires the blessings are uncountable. I’ve learned that God’s ways are ALWAYS better than mine. I’ve learned that my family can not only survive but thrive on a combined family income that is quite a bit less than $40K. Quite a bit less. I’ve learned that money doesn’t buy happiness. [Some lessons you just have to learn for yourself.] I’ve learned that some things are worth waiting and saving for. I’ve learned that some things aren’t. I’ve learned that it makes a whole lot more sense to rely on God rather than on myself or on that darn debt counseling company. I’ve learned that God is compassionate and loving enough to help me clean up my mistakes. And better than I could have cleaned them up on my own. I’ve learned that God has forgiven me and does not hold those mistakes against me. As far as the east is from the west. I’ve learned to forgive myself. I’ve learned to see the blessings in the midst of pain and adversity and to cherish those blessings. I’ve learned the value of meeting God on my knees. I’ve learned that my prayer life has grown exponentially these last 30 some months. I’ve learned that the more time I spend talking with God the less time I have to worry and the less inclination I have to worry. I’ve learned the power of key bible verses hidden in my heart and written everywhere as reminders. ---------------------------------------- Oh my, I could just go on and on about all I’ve learned. It never ceases to amaze me how many extra lessons I’m learning along the way as God teaches me to be a better steward! And all the extra blessings to boot! But most of all I’ve learned that the only one I want to be indebted to is the Good Lord! Sharing more of my debtor storyWhat this has taught me so farIn the past I was not a careful manager of our money. Oh, there were times when I would get super organized, create a budget and stick to it. For about two or three months. Then I would go right back into my old spending habits. I had see-it-want-it-buy-it- itus. Instant gratification, oh yeah baby. Oodles of things I just thought we couldn’t live without. It wasn’t big things necessarily- instead it was little things. A $30 purchase here a $20 purchase there. If went errand running to 3 different stores and overspent by $25 each store- that’s $75 over budget. It didn’t look so bad in my mind because I was only seeing it as smaller purchases- I was always thinking, “Hey, it’s just an extra $20 bucks- we can afford an extra $20.” Truth be told- we couldn’t even afford an extra $5. All these purchases were paid for, by you guessed it, Credit cards. I knew it was bad when the budget was so lousy (due to all those credit card bills) that I started putting groceries on the credit card. My Grampa & momma always told me you don’t put perishable goods on credit- “things you’ll eat and po*p out tomorrow” is what Grampa would say. Momma was more tactful and said that by the time the bill comes you don’t have anything to show for it. I agreed and at first I listened. And then I didn’t. I remember once when I put myself on a strict diet- one month cold turkey, no use of credit cards. I didn’t tell anyone I was doing it- heck, nobody knew we had a credit card debt problem, not even Mr. Steady. So I went one month cold turkey- no accountability either since I couldn’t/wouldn’t tell anyone of the problem. I barely made it through the month. I distinctly remember cashing in pop cans in order to be able to buy the bare minimum of groceries that last week. I was sweating bullets. It was painfully obvious that we couldn’t even meet our bills and needs due to my overspending. And so this is when you think I realized I had to stop. It totally shames to me to admit that not only did I not stop- I got a new offer in the mail to transfer a balance to another card for 0 percent interest and a larger credit limit. And I did. And things went on for another year or so. Until one day when I realized that the monthly outgo outweighed the monthly incoming by about $350. Even if I stopped using the credit cards (three of which were at their limits) we wouldn’t make ends meet. I checked with a “Christian” debt consolidation company and was told that they could consolidate all my credit card debt into one monthly payment and it would be paid off in 4.5 years. The problem was the monthly payment didn’t decrease from what I was already paying- which I now knew I could not keep paying. At this point, hindsight being what it is- I wish someone had told me about Dave Ramsey. I wish someone had assured me that I could actually work with the credit card companies myself- that I didn’t need a go-between. But I wasn’t broadcasting my shame, no one knew the secret therefore no one knew I needed advice. Instead this nice “Christian” debt consolidation company told me that I was a candidate for debt solutions (aka debt settlement) and gave me a number to contact. The person who spoke with me was wonderful, of course. And best of all, or so I thought, he even prayed with me!! I though I was on track- I thought this was God making a way for me. I got sucked in just like the little old lady who sends her life savings to the televangelist who supposedly is gonna heal her thru the TV screen. I totally bought it when they assured me that I would make one monthly payment to them (which was about $400 less than I was paying out at the time) and they would in turn pay my creditors. They assured me that all of my creditors would accept their proposals and work with them. “We do this all the time,” he said. “Trust me,” he said. “We’re gonna get this all taken care of for you and you’ll be debt free in 3 and ½ years- maybe even sooner. Yeah, really, I guarantee it won’t be more than 3.5 years and you’ll be re-establishing your credit.” What he should have said would have been, “Ok, Amy, you send us $xxx amount each month and we’ll work on paying off your debts. BUT you need to understand that some of your creditors won’t accept our proposal. They will sue you. Probably garnish your accounts and go after your wages. You will have to go to court. And Amy, just so you completely understand- I’m not going to let you know in advance if a creditor won’t work with us and when they do serve you with papers, I will no longer be able to help you with that debt and you’ll have to work on it on your own. In fact, I won’t even tell you what to do when you’ve been served- I won’t even return your calls. But I will, however, expect you to continue to pay the amount stated in a timely manner as set up in our contract. And just so you completely understand, not only will we charge you a monthly service fee to sit on your money (until we deem enough has been accumulated to make an offer of settlement) but we will expect you to pay us an additional settlement fee for each account we settle. This fee with be 30 percent of the difference.” Since I am a pretty sensible person, I’m pretty sure I would have opted out if the dude had been truthful. Which is quite obviously why he wasn’t. And so I remained blissfully unaware for the first year. Yeah, I was served with a court paper and various other mailings but I did as I was told and just folded them back up and mailed them to the debt counseling agency. Every once in awhile I’d get a nagging doubt and I’d call and leave a message with my credit counselor. Once or twice he called me back, assuring me all was well, that all my creditors had accepted their proposals and that I didn’t have anything to worry about. “Just keep sending us whatever you get in the mail.” And so I did. When the court papers came, hand delivered by a police officer and me having to sign for—I became upset. Again I was told to send the documents to them. I did. Then I called and asked what I should do. And then I called again and yet again leaving messages and not getting answers. I took no answer to be a good thing and just kept on keeping on. Just like I was told. For another 9 months I lived in “blissful” unawareness. La-de-da-de-daness. Until I got the mail one day with three large overdraft notices and two letters of account garnishment. In one day we went from paying our debt and putting aside money to pay our taxes and car insurance to having a negative balance. Poof. Gone. And what did the debt counseling agency do? “Oh, Amy we’re so sorry. Didn’t you know that was court document and you were being sued? Didn’t you know you missed your court date and they garnished your accounts? We can’t help you with that now. It’s out our hands. You’ll have to work on that one on your own.” And so I did. And I stayed with the company. We were sued again- this time I knew what the court document was but couldn’t do anything to stop it. Again no help from the debt counseling agency- expect that they did accept a lower monthly payment (we needed it lower so that we would have money to pay on the court judgement). In fact they were quite accommodating about accepting a lower monthly payment. Saying how sorry they were that this had happened and that it was no problem to lower our monthly payment to them. They even allowed us to skip a month’s payment so that we could make the first payment to the other collector on time. Hello?! I should have smelled the rat when they were so accommodating. This is their way- this is their way of keeping me longer- with me making smaller payments there was no way they’d be able to negotiate better, quicker-to-pay-off settlements on my behalf. It would take longer than the 3.5 years I was so absolutely assured of in the beginning. How much longer? Who knows? We won’t because I finally wised up enough to get out. After 30.5 months I finally figured that I had traded one never ending cycle for another and I jumped ship. So what did I learn? Well- from the debt counseling agency- I learned that they will tell you whatever they think you want to hear, sometimes it will be the truth, sometimes part of the truth, and sometimes they wouldn’t know the truth if it came up and bit them. I learned that it is absolutely paramount that you keep meticulous notes. Keep detailed notes of the date and time of every phone call, fax and email. Ones you send and ones you receive. Write the date rec’d on every piece of mail. Keep a log of messages you left and when they were finally answered. Keep files of papers and notes on your computer but also in hard copy in a folder. Save/record phone messages. Save and make note of every possible detail. When I would speak with my “credit counselor” on the phone I would pull up my specific file on the computer and type notes while we spoke on the phone. This would often lead me to ask more questions so that I made sure I understood something. I would go back through my notes as soon as I was off the phone, polishing and adding while it was fresh in my mind. I know that my copious notes helped me in the end with terminating the contract and getting the fee waved. I had proof. Continued next post- because this is getting awful long. What hospitality does- a quote“Hospitality does not try to impress but to serve. Entertaining puts things before people, but hospitality does the opposite. Hospitality does everything with no thought of the external reward. Instead it takes pleasure in the joy of giving, doing, loving and serving. Because hospitality has put away its pride, it doesn’t care if others see our humanness. We are maintaining no false pretension; people relax and enjoy our offer of friendship. When we are trying hospitable, we forgo the urge to ‘wow’.”-From Simple Hospitality by Jane Jarrell I'm the second frogA dear friend and mother of one of my youth kids sent me this today and I must share as it is ab-so-posi-lute-ly perfect encouragement for me today!TWO FROGS The second frog didn't like that. He started thrashing around doing whatever he could do to stay afloat. After awhile, his churning turned the cream into butter and he was able to hop out. HOW PERSISTANT ARE YOU ???? Which reminds me of that little blip I love from Facing the Giants. Contract Terminated- Dum dee dum dum.My heartfelt thanks for the prayers that have been lifted up on my behalf. I have been on my knees thanking my awesome Lord for His divine intervention. I rec’d an email yesterday evening from the manager of the debt counseling agency stating that my email had been rec’d and that he would call me in the morning after having researched my account. The email stated that the matter would be resolved. My eyes were openedDear readers- dare I ask for another prayer request?I dare. With the current situation with the debt counseling agency, I am feeling the need to take the bull-by-the-horns with our one debt remaining with the company and contact them directly with a settlement offer. This is also scary as this wonderful (add sarcasm here) I-dare-not-mention-their-name credit card company has not turned over the debt to a collection agency but has instead, unbeknownst to me (because I haven't had any paperwork from them since starting with the debt counseling agency- this company actually "agreed" to work with the agency and has been sending all paperwork to them) held it "in-house". What this means is that for the past 2.5 years they have held on to the debt- knowing it will some day be paid thru this debt counseling agency, and for this whole time have been charging a horrid amount of interest and misc. fees. So much so that in just 2.5 years time they say we owe twice the orginal amount. TWICE. As in DOUBLE. The debt counseling agency would never tell me what the negotiations were with this creditor but to say that negotiations were "ongoing" and that this creditor was "willing to wait", "would work with us" and "settle the account". Yeah- they were willing to wait- held on to the account and piled on the fees with relish and delight. And the debt agency was willing to shuffle them to the end because . . . . . They get a 30 percent cut of the negotiation. No I did not know that until recently. What this means is the debt counseling agency negotiates an amount with the creditor and then charges me 30 percent of the difference. Example: Say I owed a creditor $10,000 and the debt agency negotiated it down to $6,000. They then charge me 30 percent of the $4,000 difference, which means the agency then informs me that they negotiated a settlement of $7,200. They pocket $1,200. WHAT???? Not until this last settlement was negotiated did I know this was going on- not until I asked some harder questions to the debt agency did they give me a copy of transactions for my account that showed all the amounts they pocketed for doing business for me (including mailing fees that ranged from $15 to 19 a pop). So armed with this new information I've had a bit of a realization- I realize that this creditor has seriously hiked up the amount allegedly owed to them and that in doing so the debt counseling agency would probably come in and negotiate an "amazing" settlement for me which then allows them to pocket a very hefty chunk of change. Rubbing some salt in my wound is the fact that the current settlment being paid was not even negotiated by the debt counseling agency. They informed me back in April that the collection agency was playing hard ball and that I would have to negotiate for myself or be sued. Of course I negotiated for myself and I did a pretty good job of it too. Then came the point when I asked the hard questions about financial numbers not adding up on my debt counseling account and found out that they pocketed almost $700 for that negotiated settlement (the 30 percent of the difference). To say I was livid to find out I did my own negotiating and paid them for the privilege is a gross understatement. Hence my decision to immediately terminate my contract with them. Which it seems they have obviously ignored. But I will not be ignored any longer. I may be a debter-dirt ball (in some eyes) but I have rights and I will not watch them gobble up any more of my money for "helping" me. Which leads me to my prayer request: I have written a letter to this remaining creditor questioning the accuracy of the amount owed and offering them a settlement. It is a very low number compared to what they say I owe. And so I prayed while I wrote it, I prayed while I signed it, and I prayed while I stuffed it in the envelope and I will continue to pray. And pray when I mail it. And continue to pray. Please pray with me that the creditor will accept the settlement offer. Don't worry about anything. Instead pray about EVERYTHING! Phil 4:6 I will not be ignoredI have decided to inundate the debt counseling agency. I left a voice message and a detailed email requesting the immediate deposit of my funds back into my account.I also went online and found their website and using the email address on their contacts page for "Manager"- I then sent him a very detailed email about the situation and again requested the immediate deposit of funds. It is also my plan to fax these two emails and the email I sent previously [requesting immediate termination of our contract] tomorrow morning (actually Mr. Steady will send it but that's just symantics). The way I see it- I've called, I've emailed, I've emailed higher up and I've faxed. They can NOT ignore all of this nor can they blame "glitches" and say that they never received any such information from me. Mr. Steady has called the bank and we have been informed by the bank that with our written proof of stop payment, Mr. Steady can fill out forms to have the withdrawal reversed. According to Mr. Steady, the bank will deposit the funds in our account and go after the debt counseling agency for reimbursement. I have informed the debt counseling agency that they have until end of business day tomorrow to put the funds back in the account (afterall- if they can swoop in and take it in a day they can surely put it back in a day!) or we will pursue the matter through the bank. Please continue to keep this matter in prayer. I am praying that the agency will return our money and if not- I am praying that the document we have will truly be sufficient for the bank to pursue the matter. I must have faith that God will see this through. There has never been a time that God has not made a way for us. Lord God they did it againI would greatly appreciate prayer support. We have reached yet another snafu with our remaining debt and this debt counseling agency. Please pray- Mr. Steady just returned home from work and I must inform him of all of this. Thank you. Simple Woman's Daybook #4The Simple Woman’s DaybookFor a glimpse of others day book entries visit Peggy's blog.
FOR TODAY~ July 14th I am thinking... about ways to show hospitality and thinking I should be writing them down! One of my favorite things... singing praise songs with my children- just because.
My little guy, Bugs, Leaves and Moon TeaMoon TeaLast night as we were cleaning up and putting away after the family campfire, Mr. Conductor decided to go a-wanderin’ through my garden.
Another opportunity for learning HospitalityOnward with HospitalityAnd here we have yet another unremarkable-to-most tale of me stepping into hospitality that borders on the edge of my comfort zone. And they did (after they ate their supper but they had dessert and dare, I say, pleasant conversation- with us). It was nice. And thankful for not overlooking the simple opportunity of extending hospitality on the spur-of-the-moment. What's cookin' this week
Notes: We had a few menu changes last week- an unexpected date nite and then the opportunity of an unexpected dinner out as a family (gift certificate given to us) So a bit of last week’s menu is moving into this week. B: Gingerbread cake w/fresh black raspberries L: hot ham & cheese sandwiches, chips (ham leftover from Sunday) D: Spaghetti, greens salad, crusty bread Dessert: root beer floats Daily Cost: $6.74 Tuesday B: same as yesterday L: Peanut Butter & jelly sandwiches, graham crackers, cheese chunks D: Crescent Chicken Squares, steamed veggies Dessert: none Daily Cost: $7.54 Wednesday B: choice: cereal/yogurt and toast L: grab-n-go sandwiches, chips, popsicles D: Hamburger hoagies [new recipe], chips Dessert: ice cream sandwiches Daily Cost: $8.10 Thursday B: Fruit smoothies & honey oatmeal bread w/jam L: Picnic: sandwiches, chips, cheese chunks, cookies D: One Pot Salsa Beef skillet, cornbread Dessert: none Daily Cost: $10.59 Friday B: Cinnamon Rolls L: dlx grilled cheese sandwiches, chips D: Maiden’s Cheeseburger casserole, greens salad Dessert: Sassafras’s Jell-O salad Daily Cost: $7.82 Saturday B: Daddy Cook (egg, bacon, toast etc.) L: Leftover Smorgasbord D: Leftover Smorgasbord Daily Cost: $3.00 Sunday B: Cocoa Wheats, toast L: BBQ Chicken, skillet potatoes, ranch biscuits D: lunch leftovers Daily Cost: $6.70 Weekly Total: $50.49 ~~ Don’t forget to check out the yummy menu ideas every Monday over at The Organizing Junkie’s blog. You just might find your next favorite family recipe! Berry Picking fun
On Wednesday evening we had an early supper and then packed up the pails for some berry pickin’ over at my parents’ farm. Mom supplied us with more containers as she said the picking was so good we were definitely going to need more.
A surprise change in menu plans
Let’s see- On Tuesday my dear sweet sister-in-law (Mr. Steady’s sis) took all THREE of my kidlets for an overnighter with her brood. Photo: Crockpot Chocolate Surprise Cake Another Hospitality stepAnother Hospitality Over the holiday weekend new tenants moved into the rental behind our home. Mr. Steady has already met one lady when he helped her back up her truck and trailer to the front of the house. In 15 min. time he got most of their story- two ladies- mom and daughter, both adults, moving from about an hour south (across state line) from large metro area to our little town mostly due to a severe problem with criminal activity in their previous neighborhood. Oh and they have two dogs too.
Homemade Honey Oatmeal Bread.
Back in the online saddleSigh. Having some internet issues. I’ve had posts to post but no way to post them. And now- I am here. Enjoy today’s plethora of posts. What a weekend!We had the most lovely 4th of July Weekend. God blessed us with incredible beautiful weather on Friday- mid-70’s and sunny. Simply gorgeous. We enjoyed a wonderful laid back day of visiting with friends and family, playing games and eating.
Photos: 1st- Mr. Steady manning the grill, 2nd- The food spread, 3rd- fun & games Homeschool Mission Statement
Now that I have a name for my homeschool I would like to write a homeschool mission statement. Menu - a cheap week!
Notes: We have three gallon size bags of homemade port-a-pit chicken leftover from the 4th bash. I have frozen two bags for future use and am trying to think of interesting ways to use up the third bag without getting tired of chicken. Why not freeze the 3rd bag also? Well, it cuts down on my grocery budget this week- way down! Monday { Last Page } { Page 1 of 70 } { Next Page } |
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